FW: Non-NB: Any quasi-Orbis programs out there, on a student's budget?

["Derek B. Cornish" <100341 ! 2151 () compuserve ! com>]

Sorry this is so late. My postings don't seem to be getting through these
days. This is my 3rd try.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek B. Cornish [mailto:100341.2151@compuserve.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:33 PM
> To: 'notabene@piper.hamline.edu'
> Subject: RE: Non-NB: Any quasi-Orbis programs out there, on a 
> student's budget?
> 
> Gerald -
> 
> If you are looking for an indexed search program that will 
> handle most file-types, enable use of separate indexes for 
> sub-sets of files (so that you don't have to index your whole 
> hard disk(s)), and is free, you should look at Redtree's 
> Wilbur, at http://wilbur.redtree.com/. I have used it for 
> years. If the file has text in it, Wilbur will index and 
> search it - even old file-types like Lotus Agenda, and 
> Symantec Grandview. It will also handle most pdf files, 
> extracting the text on the fly using xpdf2text. The developer 
> is a nice guy and helpful. I am delighted to see that he is 
> developing a version (called "Wilma") for Linux.
> 
> Although Keynote (http://www.tranglos.com/free/keynote.html) 
> is not being developed any more it has excellent editing 
> features (Susan Cragin knows much more about than I). Again, 
> it's free. Roughdraft - as someone else mentioned -is another 
> alternative.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Derek
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: notabene@piper.hamline.edu
> > [mailto:notabene@piper.hamline.edu] On Behalf Of Schlabach, 
> Gerald W.
> > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 1:13 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list NOTABENE
> > Subject: Non-NB: Any quasi-Orbis programs out there, on a student's 
> > budget?
> > 
> >  
> > Hello folks:
> > 
> > Yes, I'm still here.  Since I'm not such an early adopter 
> as I was in 
> > my youth, I'm not using the 8.0 beta, so there's less to say these 
> > days.  (For the record, I hit 50, a few months before 
> Mervyn hit 70.)
> > 
> > I have a "non-NB" question.  If we were cultists, it might 
> appear to 
> > be a "betrayal of NB" question, but I really don't think it is.
> > 
> > I'm teaching an upper-level course right now that has a strong 
> > research component.  I'm trying to take about 10 minutes 
> each week to 
> > introduce some basic building-block research skills, techniques and 
> > strategies.  In a few days I want to do one such session on 
> electronic 
> > searching.  I find that few students are using even the most basic 
> > tools -- like taking notes in a word processor, which for 
> > undergraduate projects can all be in one file, and then 
> doing a very 
> > basic Ctrl-F searches.
> > 
> > What I would like to is give them four or five alternatives
> > -- from the most basic sort of search I just described, to 
> the Rolls 
> > Royce of textbase management, our own Nota Bene.
> > Realistically, only a few graduate school bound students 
> are going to 
> > consider purchasing Nota Bene.  But if a few more know that 
> Nota Bene 
> > is out there, and start with intermediate software tools, 
> eventually a 
> > few of them might upgrade to Nota Bene.  This is why I 
> don't think I'm 
> > betraying NB by posing my question, which is...
> > 
> > Do any of you know of freeware, shareware, or less-than-$50 
> software 
> > programs out there that do some of what Orbis does, indexing and 
> > searching multiple files, probably in MS Word formats?  7-8 
> years ago 
> > I found a couple of these when I was teaching another research 
> > seminar, but I am sure my findings are now woefully out of 
> date.  And 
> > if I can avoid re-doing not only my own earlier 
> investigation, but an 
> > investigation one of you might have done, all the better.
> > 
> > (BTW, to anticipate the answer some of you might have, the 
> > next-step-up suggestion beyond simple Ctrl-F searching that 
> I am going 
> > to offer will be MSN and Google desktop searching.
> > So you don't have to remind me of that.
> > What I would like third-level options to offer is more targeted 
> > searching -- e.g. in specific folders, or with certain kinds of 
> > filenames.)
> > 
> > Gerald W. Schlabach
> > Theology Department
> > University of St. Thomas
> > 2115 Summit Avenue / JRC 153
> > St. Paul MN 55103
> >     651/962-5332
> >     gwschlabach@stthomas.edu
> > 
> >