Re: Umlauts in Orbis - SWS 6.1

[Jukka-Pekka Takala <jtakala>]

Joachim,

Have you checked how you have chosen to deal with umlauts? There are two
boxes in the Orbis textbase creation/editing menu that affect this. I've
chosen to check the first box ("include all accents/modifiers") and get
results such that "Künst*" would return "Künstler" but not "Kunstwerk,"
while "Kunst*" would give the latter but not the former. (I recall that
checking both boxes would change the results such that the accented
letter in search string would find only indentical accented letters in
the textbase, while the base latter would retrieve both accented and
unaccented counterparts. And you could yet try checking just the latter
box.)

I believe the keyboard problem is to some extent an independent one that
may or may not affect this. I'm sure that all the accented characters
that are part of my Finnish keyboard (and are thus reliably entered as
one-byte versions) behave as described above. The umlauted characters in
the German.kbd created by NBWin seem to be one-byte versions, too; so I
don't think there should be any problems with them either.

j-p takala

> Mark,
> 
> Thanks for answering. I suppose that you're using the standard nb.kbd
> (US-style, of course with your specific adaptions) while I'm using the
> german.kbd with built in umlauts etc. (ä, ö, ü, ß). After quite a history
> with minor (and not so minor) nuisances with umlauts I suspect that NBWin
> has less problems with the US keyboard and diacritics keyed in via menu
> and/or a combination of keys than with built in keys adapted to national
> keyboards. Globalisation sees winners and losers!
> 
> Regards: Joachim Linder
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark D. Szuchman" <szuchman>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list NOTABENE" <notabene>
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Umlauts in Orbis - SWS 6.1
> 
> 
> >
> > Joachim,
> > The case of umlauts you mention does not conform to what I find in my
> Orbis
> > results, at least in the case of acute accents (I don't often use umlauts,
> > but others on the list who do may wish to replicate the experiment). When
> I
> > search for "organizacion" (without an accent over the letter o), I get one
> > set of hits, and when I search for "organizacio'n" (that is, with a
> > properly accented letter o), I get a different number of hits which does
> > *not* include "organizacion" without the accent.
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > At 09:17 AM 1/5/03 -0600, you wrote:
> > >I just realize (for the first time) that Orbis does not distinguish
> umlauts:
> > >'Kunstler' produces exact the same (number of) results as 'Künstler' (=
> > >Kuenstler), meaning f. i. that a search for 'Kunst*' produces (hopefully
> > >all) occurrences  of 'Kunstwerk' as well as of 'Künstler'.  A minor
> > >nuisance - but still ...
> > >
> > >Regards: Joachim Linder
> > >
> > >Dr. Joachim Linder
> > >Fuerstenrieder Strasse 9
> > >D-80687 Muenchen
> > >Tel./Fax: +89-54650017
> > >Email: JLinder
> > >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JLinder
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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